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		<title>By: Vinayak Khadye</title>
		<link>http://www.swaroopch.com/blog/underestimatedtwiki/#comment-1165</link>
		<dc:creator>Vinayak Khadye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 03:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wd it be ok if I contact you as we need assistance in installation/implementation of twiki.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wd it be ok if I contact you as we need assistance in installation/implementation of twiki.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Krishna</title>
		<link>http://www.swaroopch.com/blog/underestimatedtwiki/#comment-1164</link>
		<dc:creator>Krishna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 13:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I personally like Twiki, even though we use Sharepoint in my workplace. I have felt Sharepoint is a overkill for project team sizes that we have(say 3-4).&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally like Twiki, even though we use Sharepoint in my workplace. I have felt Sharepoint is a overkill for project team sizes that we have(say 3-4).</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Swaroop</title>
		<link>http://www.swaroopch.com/blog/underestimatedtwiki/#comment-1163</link>
		<dc:creator>Swaroop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Sriram, @Julian: Let's just say that Sharepoint makes sense in a MS shop and that too a rich one, and Sharepoint is supposed to be a good product.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;@Pramod: Thanks for the info :) ... TWiki seems to be very popular.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sriram, @Julian: Let&#8217;s just say that Sharepoint makes sense in a MS shop and that too a rich one, and Sharepoint is supposed to be a good product.</p>

<p>@Pramod: Thanks for the info <img src='http://www.swaroopch.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8230; TWiki seems to be very popular.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
		<link>http://www.swaroopch.com/blog/underestimatedtwiki/#comment-1162</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2005 05:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OK, say you're only using Sharepoint for internal usage.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For 1000 employees, isn't that:
1 x SharePoint Portal Server 2003 Server License
1000 x SharePoint Portal Server 2003 CAL&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;--&#62; $3999 + (1000 x $71) = $74999&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In which case you may as well buy a "SharePoint Portal Server 2003 External Connector License".&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Not to mention, the required SQL server licence fees, Windows Server 2003 license fees.  And then to make full use of Sharepoint, MS Office fees.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, say you&#8217;re only using Sharepoint for internal usage.</p>

<p>For 1000 employees, isn&#8217;t that:
1 x SharePoint Portal Server 2003 Server License
1000 x SharePoint Portal Server 2003 CAL</p>

<p>&#8211;&gt; $3999 + (1000 x $71) = $74999</p>

<p>In which case you may as well buy a &#8220;SharePoint Portal Server 2003 External Connector License&#8221;.</p>

<p>Not to mention, the required SQL server licence fees, Windows Server 2003 license fees.  And then to make full use of Sharepoint, MS Office fees.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Pramod Biligiri</title>
		<link>http://www.swaroopch.com/blog/underestimatedtwiki/#comment-1161</link>
		<dc:creator>Pramod Biligiri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2005 05:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We use Twiki for documentation and process related stuff at Applibase. Quite a satisfying experience so far.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We use Twiki for documentation and process related stuff at Applibase. Quite a satisfying experience so far.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Sriram</title>
		<link>http://www.swaroopch.com/blog/underestimatedtwiki/#comment-1160</link>
		<dc:creator>Sriram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2005 04:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;$30,000 for Sharepoint? Hmm...what you neglected to mention is that is the upper end where you open it up for non-employees,etc. So if you have a company that ha 1000s of employees (like MS or Yahoo),it will cost you $4000. I don't think you should have an issue with that kind of cost. This is of course keeping in mind that Sharepoint plugs into Outlook,Word,Powerpoint and your ACLs - so you can save and edit files directly to the website from inside Office as well as chat with other users of the doc,blah,blah.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you're a smaller company (let's say 5-10 people),it shouldn't be costing you more than 500-600$. Which I think is fairly reasonable. Not free - but reasonable (considering support,blah).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Btw,I got all this from http://www.microsoft.com/office/sharepoint/howtobuy/default.mspx&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And before you tell me that only MS uses it, check out http://radio.weblogs.com/0001011/2004/11/09.html#a8599.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$30,000 for Sharepoint? Hmm&#8230;what you neglected to mention is that is the upper end where you open it up for non-employees,etc. So if you have a company that ha 1000s of employees (like MS or Yahoo),it will cost you $4000. I don&#8217;t think you should have an issue with that kind of cost. This is of course keeping in mind that Sharepoint plugs into Outlook,Word,Powerpoint and your ACLs - so you can save and edit files directly to the website from inside Office as well as chat with other users of the doc,blah,blah.</p>

<p>If you&#8217;re a smaller company (let&#8217;s say 5-10 people),it shouldn&#8217;t be costing you more than 500-600$. Which I think is fairly reasonable. Not free - but reasonable (considering support,blah).</p>

<p>Btw,I got all this from <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/office/sharepoint/howtobuy/default.mspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.microsoft.com/office/sharepoint/howtobuy/default.mspx</a></p>

<p>And before you tell me that only MS uses it, check out <a href="http://radio.weblogs.com/0001011/2004/11/09.html#a8599" rel="nofollow">http://radio.weblogs.com/0001011/2004/11/09.html#a8599</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
		<link>http://www.swaroopch.com/blog/underestimatedtwiki/#comment-1159</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just another note.  The &lt;a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Fedora Project Wiki&lt;/a&gt; uses MoinMoin and a theme I created.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just another note.  The <a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/" rel="nofollow">Fedora Project Wiki</a> uses MoinMoin and a theme I created.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
		<link>http://www.swaroopch.com/blog/underestimatedtwiki/#comment-1158</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;.. MS Sharepoint costs USD$30,000 last time I checked late last year at their web site.  Sure, if you work in Microsoft it probably doesn't cost you anything.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For my workplace I setup &lt;a href="http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/" rel="nofollow"&gt;MoinMoin&lt;/a&gt; for the wiki.  It's Python based and open source.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I also set up Bugzilla.  It's Perl but it's an old Open Source project that well supported by the Mozilla foundation.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have little free time at work but I'm developing a Plone based CMS.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.. MS Sharepoint costs USD$30,000 last time I checked late last year at their web site.  Sure, if you work in Microsoft it probably doesn&#8217;t cost you anything.</p>

<p>For my workplace I setup <a href="http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/" rel="nofollow">MoinMoin</a> for the wiki.  It&#8217;s Python based and open source.</p>

<p>I also set up Bugzilla.  It&#8217;s Perl but it&#8217;s an old Open Source project that well supported by the Mozilla foundation.</p>

<p>I have little free time at work but I&#8217;m developing a Plone based CMS.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Sriram</title>
		<link>http://www.swaroopch.com/blog/underestimatedtwiki/#comment-1157</link>
		<dc:creator>Sriram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 05:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bleah - forget the marketing-ese. Drop in at the Microsoft office in Blr sometime and check it out. Also - check out its integration with Office.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bleah - forget the marketing-ese. Drop in at the Microsoft office in Blr sometime and check it out. Also - check out its integration with Office.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Swaroop</title>
		<link>http://www.swaroopch.com/blog/underestimatedtwiki/#comment-1156</link>
		<dc:creator>Swaroop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 05:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have never used Sharepoint, so I don't know :)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;However, after &lt;a href="http://www.microsoft.com/sharepoint/overview.mspx"&gt;reading the overview&lt;/a&gt;, I don't think TWiki is anything like Sharepoint. TWiki has a &lt;acronym title="Keep It Simple, Stupid"&gt;KISS&lt;/acronym&gt; principle attached to it that I like ;)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never used Sharepoint, so I don&#8217;t know <img src='http://www.swaroopch.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>

<p>However, after <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/sharepoint/overview.mspx">reading the overview</a>, I don&#8217;t think TWiki is anything like Sharepoint. TWiki has a <acronym title="Keep It Simple, Stupid">KISS</acronym> principle attached to it that I like <img src='http://www.swaroopch.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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